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Post by Eankam on Sept 22, 2010 20:48:02 GMT -5
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Post by Tommy on Sept 22, 2010 21:23:33 GMT -5
SO FUCKING EXCITED! is anyone else looking forward to Part 1 more than Part 2? I mean, you've got more Hermione than Ron, no epilogue, and the awesome ministry stuff. I can't wait
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Post by Katherine on Sept 22, 2010 21:28:48 GMT -5
It looks sooo good. Can't wait to see it!
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Post by rc on Sept 23, 2010 1:32:54 GMT -5
SO FUCKING EXCITED! is anyone else looking forward to Part 1 more than Part 2? I mean, you've got more Hermione than Ron, no epilogue, and the awesome ministry stuff. I can't wait They said film one goes about... 2/3 of the way through, ya? The last movie seems likely to be mostly the battle and the few things approaching the battle. So... idk which ends to want more. I just want both, now.
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Post by Arial on Sept 23, 2010 3:21:40 GMT -5
THESTRALS FUCK YEAH. Did they get shown in the other ones?
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Post by Cei on Sept 23, 2010 4:29:38 GMT -5
YOU GO RON WEASLEY!
The other previews or the other films? They were in OoTP but not the other preview, to cover both bases.
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Post by Arial on Sept 23, 2010 11:51:27 GMT -5
Yeah I meant the other films. Why do I not remember them? Probably cause I haven't seen that one since it came out...
So, so, so, so excited for this.
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Post by Jessticles on Sept 23, 2010 12:33:22 GMT -5
WHY DO I HAVE TO BE IN ITALY WHEN IT COMES OUT.
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Post by katherinej on Sept 23, 2010 12:50:59 GMT -5
So, I think I've figured that my favorite part of the trailers is the beefed up theme music that they play at the end, haha. It's pretty great.
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Post by Pillars of Aaron on Sept 23, 2010 14:28:43 GMT -5
Looked sweet! High hopes!
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Post by rc on Sept 23, 2010 15:30:01 GMT -5
I've never been an overwhelming fan of the movies. They're okay for what they are, not really great films, but entertaining none-the-less. But damn does this trailer make me giddy with anticipation. Also, I wanted to post this on Mark's blog we he was talking about Hagrid/Hurley comparisons, but buzznet doesn't like me.
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Post by Mr. Keichi on Sept 23, 2010 17:44:57 GMT -5
I finally watched the trailer! Jazzed! I'm not super into HP like everybody in here but my sister made me start watching the movies and now I've seen them all and I enjoy!
And this comes out on my birthday! v( ̄- ̄)v
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Post by Casey on Sept 24, 2010 14:45:02 GMT -5
I'm gonna cry, I know it. Fucking harry potter.
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Post by kr on Sept 24, 2010 16:18:06 GMT -5
brb hurling myself off the earth
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Post by sbr on Sept 24, 2010 16:35:18 GMT -5
I decided to lift my ban on Harry Potter movies and start finishing out the series. I watched OotP at 3 AM this morning.
I didn't love it. I didn't hate it. I'm more forgiving of Gambon as I'm truly starting to see the horribleness of Dumbledore as less his failing and more the failing of a series of directors that are so fucking brain dead that they can't "get" a character that is so ungodly simple to "get".
Beyond that, OotP just doesn't work as a 2 hour movie. It's too much story and it was poorly condensed, with some of the best moments of the entire series suffering because of it.
I'm gonna watch HBP in a few minutes. I've been told that I'll enjoy it more than GoF and OotP, so we'll see.
Watching these movies makes me a little sad because the films could have been so much more than they are. \
In a more general, book centric, thought, I really hope history looks back as favorably on Rowling and the Harry Potter series as they both deserve. I sleep better at night believing, hoping, that 100 years from now, garbage such as Twilight will be lost to the ages while Harry Potter lives on and Rowling is given her due credit as one of, if not the, most important authors of fiction from this era. I don't even think I realized it when I first read the books, but in the times I've revisited them and moreso now than ever, it so astounding how relevant they are. How culturally necessary they are. How important they are. The things Rowling chose to do inside the confines of a a series of books aimed at children and teenagers is, at times, breathtaking. I feel sorry for anyone who grew up without Harry Potter and is now an adult looking down on them as mere nonsensical and ultimately pointless "books for kids."
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Post by Arial on Sept 24, 2010 18:11:27 GMT -5
I'm gonna cry, I know it. I watched all the DH trailers and got all teary.
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Post by sbr on Sept 24, 2010 19:18:15 GMT -5
Oh, God. I just read the review where Mark actually gets to Snape killing Dumbledore (as if anyone on the internet doesn't know this lolz spoilerz It's like, the saddest fucking thing ever, when that happens. The whole thing is just sad upon sad. I just want to give him a hug and Jesus it's almost hard not to tell him that Snape is really a good guy, Dumbledore wasn't pleading for his life but pleading for Snape to kill him and save Draco, etc, etc. God damn you, Rowling.
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Post by rc on Sept 24, 2010 20:03:45 GMT -5
I'm gonna watch HBP in a few minutes. I've been told that I'll enjoy it more than GoF and OotP, so we'll see. Not the ruin the experience... The movie ending makes no fucking sense!
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Post by sbr on Sept 24, 2010 23:35:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I've pretty much accepted that there is no fucking hope for me with these movies. I'll see both parts of DH when they are released, just because I have to at this point.
I can confidently say that all 6 thus far released Harry Potter movies are brimming with so much potential that is just never met. It almost makes me angry because everything about them works so well except for the storytelling. The sets? Gorgeous. The cast? Brilliant. I've forgiving Michael Gambon because I really, really don't believe he is to blame for Dumbledores failings on the screen. The actual telling of the story? Complete rubbish.
For those that have watched the movies and never read the books, how the hell did you do it? The books actually manage to tell a pretty solid story from beginning to end while the movies are disjointed wrecks. I realize that a large part of this is the fact that there is so much information contained within the books, but come on. They could be better. They should be better.
I will inevitably continue to reread the books several times throughout the rest of my life. I don't doubt that at all. I can't imagine ever taking the time to rewatch these films again, though. So subpar before even being compared to the source materials. When held up against the books they are so abysmal that it's heartbreaking.
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Post by rc on Sept 25, 2010 2:01:23 GMT -5
Not that you were, but you can't blame a movie's short-comings based on the original source having too much depth. Just look at Lord of the Rings. Those novels have endless amounts to them, and the films were still brilliant. I agree with you that the films fail at retelling the story more than anything else, and not because they don't stick to the originals; they're just laid out poorly.
I have more problems with Half-Blood Prince than any of the rest. Certain additions to the plot just muddled the villains motivations and actions beyond understanding.
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Post by Jessticles on Sept 25, 2010 3:57:59 GMT -5
I've probably said this before somewhere on the NOMB, but I never go to watch a movie based off a book or something else and expect it to be like it. I always go in trying to see them as two completely different things and then usually the movie is great.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2010 12:56:24 GMT -5
I'm gonna cry, I know it. Fucking harry potter. Seriously. I get goosebumps every time I see a trailer at the theater, haha.
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Post by AKiminseattle on Sept 25, 2010 13:25:14 GMT -5
I'm gonna cry, I know it. Fucking harry potter. Same here. I don't think I'll be able to make it all the way through the first part with out crying somewhere. Mostly just crying because I know it's almost over I keep saying every year that I'm going to dress up, so now that there's only two movies left I need to start ordering the uniform.
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Post by rc on Sept 25, 2010 14:05:20 GMT -5
I've probably said this before somewhere on the NOMB, but I never go to watch a movie based off a book or something else and expect it to be like it. I always go in trying to see them as two completely different things and then usually the movie is great. Which makes sense; the mediums are too different to expect one to be enjoyed the same as the other. But my complaint is that the Harry Potter movies are just "okay" at being recreations of the books AND just "okay" at being movies.
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Post by sbr on Sept 25, 2010 17:57:02 GMT -5
I've been revisiting the last book in my head a lot and I think some one of my favorite things about Rowling as a writer is She really isn't afraid to make difficult decisions. From the simple fact that she would kill Sirius, Dumbledore, Fred, Tonks, Lupin, etc, etc, to the fact that she would have Molly kill Bellatrix. Everyone knew that in the end, Neville would kill Bellatrix. If he didn't, at the very least, Harry would. But it had to be Neville. There was no question from the second you met Bellatrix and learned about Neville's parents that he would be the one to kill her in the end. It would have been very poetic, but I love that she didn't do it I love that she didn't let "destiny" dictate the story. Nevile was destined to kill Bellatrix. Harry was destined to find some happiness with Sirius. Fred and George were destined to go on as successful wondertwins. Teddy was destined to grow up and become a great person under the care of Tonks and Lupin. Snape was destined to be either a really good guy or a really bad guy. None of that happened, of course. Everyone fucking died (including Snape) and Snape was never "the bad guy." He was never "the good guy." He was a guy who was motivated to do good things in the end despite the fact that in a lot of ways, he was a piece of shit. Or, Snape was a good man who sometimes did really bad things. Snape wasn't good or bad in the end. He was human and succeeded and failed at a pace equal to all other humans. Blah blah blah blah.
The last 4 books are so hard to read and it makes me so happy that they were written. There is nothing easy about it. Dobby, an infinitely frustrating character, got the death scene that everyone wished every other dead character would get and Rowling made it work in such a painfully beautiful way. Alright, I'm done with the word vomit.
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Post by j. on Sept 25, 2010 21:38:40 GMT -5
ahhhhhhhhh I love these books and everything you posted is so very true.
I really need to catch up with mark reads hp. I'm not even half way through the book and he is done!
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Post by Arial on Sept 25, 2010 23:52:29 GMT -5
I think I've decided I'm definitely going to make my entire leg just one giant HP collage.
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Post by sbr on Sept 26, 2010 1:47:09 GMT -5
I just had someone try to tell me that I am ludicrous for claiming the Harry Potter series is valid, legitimate social commentary with great depth and value by listing a series of books I should read to understand what these things are.
One of the books listed was "The Fountainhead". How the fuck do I take anyone seriously when they throw Ayn Rand into the mix? Especially when he actually listed a lot of great, worthwhile pieces of literature? People make me sad.
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Post by j. on Sept 26, 2010 15:47:15 GMT -5
So was his argument that HP is not valid social commentary basically pointing out other books with social commentary in them? Hmm, good argument.
Also, lol at Ayn Rand.
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Post by sbr on Sept 26, 2010 17:57:10 GMT -5
Essentially, he'd never read the books and had written them off a popular, nonsensical drivel.
I asserted that they were, in fact, quite poignant and had a great deal of depth and value as both works of fiction and social commentary. His response was that, while he wouldn't question my tastes, my belief that they had any value as social commentary was ludicrous, at which point he advised me to read several other works (many of which are great and absolutely valuable in this discussion). This list included "The Fountainhead."
He invited me to read the works, reread Harry Potter, then dare to make the same comments, at which point he would "punch me in the mouth."
Once I called him on the Rand bullshit he got over his "I'm in law school and smarter than you and can be a condescending douchebag" garbage.
Protip: Being in any college, in any program, pursuing any form of degree does not win arguments for you by default, even against college dropouts.
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