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Post by Nick Taxidermy on Apr 28, 2011 21:45:13 GMT -5
or Gallhammer.
haha, Dickless.
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Post by mechasean on May 8, 2011 18:36:22 GMT -5
recommended if you like fucked up death(/doom) metal. they sound like that picture pretty much. like if that thing recorded a metal album.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 0:24:24 GMT -5
That cover is awesome. I'll remember to check out the band soon. This is my soundtrack tonight:
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Post by Nick Taxidermy on May 9, 2011 1:19:37 GMT -5
dude, Sean, thanks for the Autopsy. band is rad.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 19:09:06 GMT -5
I might have posted this before, but I can't remember. Awesome band.
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Post by JoshShark on May 12, 2011 11:19:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 12:23:29 GMT -5
I don't know if any of you dudes like Novembers Doom but their new album is really solid. It took me awhile to get sold on this band.
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Post by mechasean on May 12, 2011 13:45:34 GMT -5
I liked Novembers Doom when I was first getting into, uh, doom, but that whole "gothy" fuckin mopey style of doom does absolutely nothing for me these days.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 18:11:44 GMT -5
I don't hear much goth in their music, to be honest. I think they have more of a death/doom style than anything but I haven't heard all of their records. Their newer stuff reminds me of Opeth quite a bit.
"gothy mopey doom" makes me think of Draconian.
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Post by mechasean on May 12, 2011 18:29:06 GMT -5
It's been a while since I've listened to them, but I remember thinking they sounded a lot like My Dying Bride.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 18:52:01 GMT -5
I'm actually listening to MDB now so it's funny you mention that, haha. They are kind of similar but Novembers Doom has a lot more death metal influence. I guess you could compare them to early Katatonia.
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Post by Nick Taxidermy on May 13, 2011 10:13:10 GMT -5
I love My Dying Bride. I hate almost everything else I've ever heard in that sound.
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Post by JoshShark on May 15, 2011 13:37:26 GMT -5
Female fronted power metal! <33 I saw them open for Blind Guardian and reallllly liked them. Solid and powerful with a strong, gritty female vocalist.
Seven Kingdoms
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2011 16:14:39 GMT -5
I know I'm going to come off as a prick but does anyone else get annoyed with how the term "sludge" is thrown around lately. Like, my friend was going on about hoe Coliseum is a sludge band and I'm listening to their newer stuff right now and I just don't hear much sludge in this other than the guitar tone I guess. It's like almost any kind I'd southern/stoner or slow metal band is classified as sludge now. I love Baroness but their last two records do not sound like sludge to me. When I think of sludge I think of stuff that sounds exactly like its name. Crowbar, Burning Witch, Thou and Eyehategod come to mind. Crushing riffs, gluttutql vocals, etc.
Don't get me wrong, post-metal is one of my favorite things to listen to but I wouldn't call a lot of it sludge. I posted this on my touch so it probably sounds like I'm drunk but I hope that made some sense. Just something that's bugging me lately.
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Post by Nick Taxidermy on May 29, 2011 9:38:42 GMT -5
sludge and stoner and doom have all become sort of interchangeable, yeah.
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Post by mechasean on May 29, 2011 19:18:32 GMT -5
I definitely get that. I guess "post-sludge" is kind of the most accurate term for that sound, though it really seems like hardcore kids are attaching it to any Bridge 9 band that has slow, "sludgy" breakdowns. Which is related to hardcore kids abusing the term "power violence" as well. But yeah. Sludge is supposed to sound fucking dirty and thick and ugly, like Grief and Dystopia, not all pretty and shit like Isis and Baroness. Not that that sound is bad or anything, really, but it ain't sludge.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 20:37:18 GMT -5
Yeah Sean, that's exactly what I was trying to say actually, haha. Isis and Baroness are two of my favorite metal bands but they do not sound that sludge to me at all. At least not their most recent output. Both of those band's early material could definitely pass off as sludge, especially Isis' first EP. Holy fuck is that good. I guess "post-metal" is what they fall under and I would put Neurosis in that category too. Mostly I'm just tired of my friend posting #SLUDGEMETAL #SLUDGEMETAL all over twitter because he just got into it and he only listens to bands associated with John Baizley.
I can tell sludge and doom apart pretty easily for the most part, but I have different definitions for those. For sludge, I'm looking for stuff like Sean said. Stuff that's dirty, thick and ugly but with doom, the sound is a little cleaner and the riffs have more drone-ish sounds to them. Stuff that resembles Sabbath (Saint Vitus, Pentagram) is what I describe doom as.
Also, I haven't been a huge Nathrakh fan but I'm listening to In Constellation of the Black Widow now after originally being turned off by it but this band is really clicking with me now for whatever reason. This album is pure insanity.
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Post by mechasean on May 29, 2011 23:40:51 GMT -5
I am loving Neurosis pretty hard right now. Steve Von Till and Scott Kelly's solo works are great too, they basically sound exactly how you would expect Neurosis-unplugged to sound. I think it's silly to try and pin a genre on them, though 'post-metal' is like... almost right, haha. They've got their own thing, though. I kinda put them in the same category as Amebix and Swans, not that they really sound like those bands. But there's a common thread that runs through it. Maybe it's just 'heavy guitars+tribal drums', haha. I love that sound.
also agree w/ that distinction between sludge and doom. The attitude/atmosphere has a lot to do with any divisions from there.
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Post by mechasean on May 29, 2011 23:45:17 GMT -5
Oh and it sounds like Morbid Angel's new album sucks fucking hard. Fuck David Vincent and fuck Tim Yeung. Morbid Angel being Morbid Angel, there's some cool Azagthoth riffs, but that alone can't save such a shitty album.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2011 0:13:41 GMT -5
I haven't heard any side project yet unless Shrinebuilder counts, but I usually love anything Scott Kelly's involved with. Neurosis unplugged kind of makes me think of the tribal parts in A Sun That Never Sleeps. I agree that they have their own sound, though. There's a lot of bands who clearly have influence from them but don't sound exactly like them. Rosetta's an exception since they sound like they worship Neurosis.
And I listened to Grief's Dismal earlier tonight and I think this is an album I would point to if I wanted someone to hear what sludge sounds like. So rad.
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Post by mechasean on May 30, 2011 13:31:36 GMT -5
Von Till's Harvestman project is kind of the same sound as the tribal/ambient sort of parts on A Sun That Never Sets, but him and Scott Kelly's solo works are more like really slow, depressing folk songs.
And yeah, all the Grief I've heard has been fucking great. Iron Monkey are a fucking great sludge band, too. Fuck, I love Iron Monkey.
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Post by Nick Taxidermy on May 31, 2011 15:56:05 GMT -5
Also, I haven't been a huge Nathrakh fan but I'm listening to In Constellation of the Black Widow now after originally being turned off by it but this band is really clicking with me now for whatever reason. This album is pure insanity. fuuuck yes. New record, Passion, is kind of cleaner, but also maybe a bit more homicidally strange, too.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 16:02:39 GMT -5
I'll have to check it out. I haven't really listened to their earlier records but I like Black Widow and Hell is Empty a lot. I'm going to have to check out The Axis of Perdition too when my laptop gets fixed.
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Post by Nick Taxidermy on Jun 1, 2011 0:30:45 GMT -5
Axis are a whole different corpse of worms.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 0:46:13 GMT -5
Metal archives says their genre is black metal/grindcore/dark ambient. So I'm going to assume it sounds scary, which I'm all for.
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Post by Nick Taxidermy on Jun 1, 2011 9:59:50 GMT -5
dunno where they got grindcore from. there is nothing grind about the axis. but yes, they're terrifying. start with one of the Pendulums Prey tracks, those are probably a good intro.
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Post by Super Nintendo Chalmers on Jun 3, 2011 15:55:29 GMT -5
I already asked Corey, but I've been really into Boris' Amplifier Worship lately, and I want some recommendations on similiar drone/doom stuff in that vein (maybe leaning more towards the drone side of things). I already ordered Altar by Sunn o))/Boris, so you can cross that off the list.
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Post by Cheryl Prime on Jun 3, 2011 16:04:50 GMT -5
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Post by JoshShark on Jun 8, 2011 1:31:24 GMT -5
Sup. Check out my band's Myspace. We put up some of the new tracks. Sick ass vocals, disgusting guitar, and bear-blasting drums. I'll be laying down some bass tracks in mid-July. I'm so mother fucking pumped. We'll be throwing in some keyboards as well at some point. www.myspace.com/serapheum
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Post by JoshShark on Jun 8, 2011 1:33:37 GMT -5
And fuck yeah to Bathory. I love that song.
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